24 August 2010

Spec

Well, this is it right?  The first thing anyone asks when venturing into a new class and/or spec?  What spec?

I'm gonna throw all that on ya right now bo!  I'll bust it down to different varying categories depending on gear.

This is what I use:
DW Frost, chilblains

I use chilblains because I still use icy touch even though they made chains apply frost fever baseline.  It's situational for me which I use, but I like chilblains because its 50% during its duration.  I have 5/5 toughness without 5/5 bladed armor ... hmm why the fuck did I do that?  Well I get toughness for the snare reduction, I would LOVE to put 5/5 into bladed armor, and actually could if I used this spec:

DW Frost, no chilblains, no virulence

This spec is iffy without virulence, and surprisingly I can tell you it works against teams over 1800 mostly.  Healers don't dispel my diseases hardly at all.  It could be due to the great pressure I can put out, or maybe they gave up when they gave unholy disease protection and assume I'm unholy... who knows?  5/5 toughness and bladed armor your hitting like a truck.  No chilblains, this carters more to a chains spam type of play.

Shit on people, BG build.

Like it says this build undeniably destroys people in BGs.

There is a lot to take into consideration when choosing which spec to use which largely all boils down to the gear you use.  If someone happens to stumble across my ramblings here and want some advice, by all means comment and I'll see what I can do!!

Must have MAX pt talents for ALL frost PvP specs:
  • Hungering Cold - You would be MEGA useless without this!!!
  • Lichborne - This season Warlocks and Priests rule Arena, being able to break fear is important.
  • Annihilation - 100% Obliterate won't consume diseases on target, think this speaks for itself!
  • Frost Strike - Your go-to runic power dump ... you should ONLY deathcoil from range, this isn't Unholy.
  • Howling Blast - The amount of dmg this does across multiple targets it is hard not to get.  Besides, you need at least 5/5 Tundra Stalker, spend the one pt to get this incredible ability!
  • Rime - People tend to talk shit about this on AJ about how it never procs.  Thats what you get for listening to Unholy DKs.  This procs A LOT.
  • Endless Winter - Frost Strike as RP dump it is easy to drain RP, you need interrupt to be free cost when it is up, trust me without this talent I can guarantee you will be out of RP when you need to interrupt the most.
  • Scent of Blood (mega importanté!!!!) - With this talent your RP bar will fill up in seconds.
  • Subversion - Crit is a MAJOR modifier for all the dmg in the frost tree, more crit = more dmg.
  • Chill of the Grave - The ONLY additional RP gain talent in the tree, and the abilities listed are used A LOT
    • Side Note:  Having this talent makes classes like Frost Mage alot easier.  One chains when engaging the Frost Mage gives you enough RP to cast AMS, which allows you to stay on the Mage for a bit before the kite fest starts.  (Also, you will need PvP gloves equipped, otherwise you won't generate enough RP for the AMS).
  • Glacier Rot - @ 7% a pt your an idiot for not maxing this.
  • Blood of the North - Yeah have fun with those blood runes without this talent.
  • Merciless Combat - Don't you notice that when you are sooooo close to killing someone you beat and beat and beat ... boom full life!  Juuuuust can't quite land that killing blow???  Well multiply that X100000 if you don't grab this talent!!
  • Guile of the Gorefiend - If you question why you need this talent, sit down and read the tooltip veeeery carefully!
  • Deathchill - @ 1 pt cost you can't deny this talent, it makes Obliterates crit BTW.  Plus goes great with Rime procs ... Rime -> get targets together spread diseases then DC -> HB for huge dmg across all targets within 10 yds of your target.
  • Unbreakable Armor - I see a ton of DKs with frost specs who don't have this talent.  I'm guessing they are not reading the tooltip and are maybe assuming is only an armor increase.  Check the tool tip, 20% str increase, at 1 min CD for a single frost rune for 1 pt - HUGE talent for burst.
Talents you can shave 1 or 2 pts off of:


  • Black Ice - 2% per pt, wont hurt to give up 1 or 2.
  • Killing Machine - I'd say shave off 1 pt at the most, anymore and it just NEVER seems to proc.
  • Icy Reach - I personally put 2/2 here, but its very doable with only 1 pt into it.
  • Tundra Stalker - At 3% per it's cool to shave off at least 1 pt.
Also, bear in mind you should be mindful of how you shave pts, especially when it comes to any of the % increase talents, shaving multiple pts decreases multiple %'s and you will inadvertently screw your dmg doing this.

Examples:

-- The ideal way to shave pts would be, 1 pt off Black Ice, Killing Machine and Icy Reach, which frees up 3 pts and you only loose dmg wise 2% plus a small proc from KM and 5 yds off your abilities.

-- The wrong way would be to shave 2 pts off Black Ice and then maybe a 1 pt off Tundra Stalker.  Big picture, you killed off ~7% dmg for those 3 pts, not worth it IMO.  I personally wouldn't shave off pts in both Black Ice and Tundra Stalker, for me its 1 or 2 off Black Ice by itself, or 1 off Tundra Stalker alone ... NEVER the two combined.  My rule of thumb is kill off >%5 dmg if possible.



Situational / Gear / Play Style - Dependent Talents:

  • Toughness - Even though I believe this is huge for frost, maybe you run with Pally or Rogue then you wouldn't need this.
  • Improved Icy Talons - If you are good at staying on your target to dish out white dmg consistently you NEED to grab this talent, even without it 80% of the time in all matches (BGs and Arena), white dmg comes in first.
  • Bladed Armor - Goes great with Toughness or if you play in Frost Presence.
  • Chilblains - If you think why use Icy Touch when I can just spam chains?  Skip this talent.  But it is good for situational use between IT and chains.
  • Virulence - Under geared I say definitely get this talent, if you are geared to the fucking teeth with heroic raid gear skip this talent healers are not gonna have time to dispel shit.  Or be like me I always pestilence after diseases and target swap and pestilence again if they get dispelled.
  • Dark Conviction - Def. get some pts into this talent if you are under geared, like I mentioned before crit is big with frost.
  • Improved Frost Presence - Again, under geared or running healer-less grab this.  Also note, boosts your dmg a lil bit going into Frost Presence if you have 5/5 Toughness.
And lastly, if you use a 2 handed weapon as opposed to two one handed weapons depends on whether you need to get Nerves of Cold Steel + Threat of Thassarian or Two-Handed Weapon Specialization.  Another note:  With 3/3 Nerves of Cold Steel you only need to obtain 2% hit as opposed to 5% if you are using a two handed weapon.

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